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Renée Fishman's avatar

Of course this issue arises at the other end of the day as well. I often will fall asleep to a sound healing late at night, on the floor. Then I’ll wake up and get into bed to go back to sleep.

The same considerations apply: how much time must elapse between the end of my “nap” and getting into bed for my floor session to count as a nap vs just including it as part of my sleep?

What’s the role that intention plays here?

Are there certain activities that I might do between the floor and getting back into bed that give the floor session distance that it qualifies as a nap?

So many avenues for completely overthinking and analyzing this!

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Matt Hoffman's avatar

Haha I know I’ve written a post about napping and intention and loss of consh...if you read Foundations 3.5, I definitely link to the earlier piece where I talk about it. So much to consider, def make it a series -- that’s one of a number of solutions your brother and I have concocted to deal with the 250 word limit (also captions and footnotes not counting towards word count -- genius!).

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Renée Fishman's avatar

I wonder if your definition of a flex or a super flex might be better framed in terms of relative time vs linear (clock) time.

If you wake up at 4:30 am and you nap at 8:30 am, it’s the equivalent of waking up at 7 am and napping at 11 am.

If you wake up at 8 am and nap at 8:30 am, is that really a “nap?”

What’s the time duration that must elapse for you to cross the line from “going back to sleep” to “taking a nap”?

What other criteria is relevant to when that line gets crossed?

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Matt Hoffman's avatar

Super interesting to think about! The other day, I woke up around 6:30, lay around for a bit, then fell back to sleep for a bit. That second phase instinctively does not strike me as a “nap” or “flex,” but had I initially woken up midnight, it would have definitely been a “nap” and “flex,” as we currently define it.

“Flex” feels right to me for the pre-noon nap, given when we (and presumably the average working professional in the US) tend to arise.

IIRC, experts say that the ideal time for a “nap” is 6-7 hours after waking — I think you’re getting at what we might call a sleeping session that occurs in less time than that. Given that you raised this, I’m making the executive decision that you get first crack at naming this kind of sleep — what do you think?

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Renée Fishman's avatar

I accept that invitation and will put some thought into an appropriate name for that nap!

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Matt Hoffman's avatar

Awesome! Then maybe you can write a FGF about it :-D

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Renée Fishman's avatar

Def. I also have a couple of other topics in mind for FGF!

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